This is a short post because I am actually going into more detail over at my professional blog on Medium. But here my other issues around meetings that I can’t post there.
I have been told that there are different reasons for not liking these aspects of meetings - I’m introverted, I’m a Virgo (yes, by a coworker in a meeting), I’m too busy, I don’t appreciate the impact on morale, etc. But no, I disagree. Some of these are just plain weird
1. Small talk at the beginning of each meeting - yes, I know, relationship building. Sure - the warm and fuzzy before the work begins. Problem is with most meetings I am already slacking, talking or have been in other meetings with the other folks multiple times that day, much less this week. I once sat in a meeting where by the time all the warm and fuzzies was over we had 7 minutes to plan a client meeting agenda….guess who just drafted it and sent for review after since jack got done.
2. We need stop trying to pretend like no one wants to be in meetings - there is always THAT person…it can take a bit to adapt to the communication styles of others, totally understand that. And sometimes going into detail is useful. Then there is a person who just can’t help themselves and feel the need to literally recap something they have said not just during that meeting but in other meetings earlier in long robust description. They are literally not adding more information. These are all aspects already known. And they communicate as if this is BRAND NEW to everyone. They might complain about meetings, but frankly it’s clear they like them. Folks who don’t like meetings might go into detail but will normally ask if everyone already knows, offer to send info for review after the meeting, open to offline conversations, etc. It is clear they want out. But those who do like meetings dominate the conversation and it is never with new info, new ideas or new approaches. It’s all recap and explaining the problem. Don’t care, stop. If someone doesn’t know the problem and it isn’t the true first time it is ever being discussed, they should call that out. Otherwise, be quiet and let those who are there to get it done, get it done. I was on a 30 minute call in which literally 6 minutes of actual discussion happened because one person took 22 minutes to keep restating the objective and issue anytime anyone said anything. Sincerely 1 person would say something that was under a minute and they would take like 3 and a half to literally restate the objective of the project…a project that had been getting worked on for months and we had weekly meetings for. This is a person who is trying hard to cover up they don’t know what they are doing or simply likes to hear themselves talk. To be clear - there are probably some people who would put me in this classification. I hope I have gotten better but I am sure I would get placed her by some folks.
3. Not the Time Not Place Person - this is the person who is there to bring up only their issue and cannot stay on topic. Not because they don’t understand, they simply aren’t interested. They could have even demanded to be included in the meeting and yet. They are there for others to know exactly the issue they are concerned about. It normally is directly effecting them and either is nebulous or weird. If you are trying to tackle a tactical emergency but then the person just keeps talking about the relationship to the client you have a Segway on your hands. Yes, Segway, we all know this impacts the client. That’s why we are trying to resolve this issue. This is not the time or place to discuss how to fix the client as a whole. Odds are the wrong people for that are on the call. Doesn’t matter to them. This is the same type of person who will stand up at a company wide and complain that there should be different toilet paper in the bathrooms because it’s too rough during open questions with the CEO (not joking, witnessed this).
4. Tangenter - I am incredibly guilty of this. I regularly ask my colleagues to pull me in on this because I know I am guilty of this. Now to be transparent, I am paid to find quicksand. I am paid to find alternatives if Plan A doesn’t work. I am paid to assess risk and ruthlessly stack rank priorities. I am also responsible for relationship building, account management etc. I sit in the field where meetings = productive while also being asked to be strategic and thoughtful around needs. These often can be diametrically opposed. Both take up a lot of time but operate in different ways. If you need to research, brainstorm, design and pressure test, that takes chucks of time to do all that. Attention switching is bad for that. But relationship building, especially with clients, means sitting on meetings that in all honesty, you don’t actually contribute a lot to but have a tendency to be a lot of them sporadic throughout the day. So tangenting in research is incredibly valuable but HORRIBLE in meetings. Plus I have ADHD so focus is either laser or nothing. These folks can derail a meeting FAST and prevent it from getting anything for the original goal done. It’s not intentional and odds are is just triggered by something someone else said that they noticed and started to go down that rabbit hole. They are annoying AF. If you are one, acknowledge it, tell your colleagues to hold you to account and stop making people have to schedule more meetings just because you have the intense focus of a dog (referring to the move up - Squirrel!)
5. Always late - I get it happens. But if it is always happening, don’t play victim to circumstance and fix it. Everyone else’s time is valuable, stop. Or say you can’t attend. Don’t make it our job to stop the progress of the meeting to catch you up. That’s on you.
6. Are you coming? - Related to the always late is the person you always have to ping. I get it, it happens. But if it is always true, dude. Come on. Decline the meeting then.
I could keep going on but I think you can guess why I didn’t put these into my professional ones. And the examples referenced are not from my current job. I am smarter than that. Plus to be clear, I don’t think a single person I currently work with would ask my CEO about upgrading toilet paper. They are too smart for that.
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